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Episode 237 Transcript
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This is not how My show notes were when I sat down to record tonights show - but the Verdict from Apple V Samsung just came in - and well that changes things - In a nut shell - Apple wins - Samsung looses. Here are some details.
- First claim: Samsung is guilty on all products.
- Samsung guilty on bounce back.
- Samsung infringes on pinch to zoom on all but three devices.
- Apple’s patent for iPhone’s front surface violated on all but one phone.
- Two Samsung phones violated the back of the iPhone.
- Samsung violated with all phones on the iPhone home screen patent.
- Samsung Galaxy Tab design does NOT INFRINGE the Apple iPad’s design, per the Jury.
- Jury says Apple patents were willfully infringed by Samsung (5 out of 7 places).
- Jury finds that all of Apple’s patents ARE VALID.
- Damages to Apple $1,051,855,000
- iPhone 3G, 3GS, and 4, iPad and iPod touch don’t infringe any Samsung patents.
- Apple has to pay Samsung $0
- Apple has infringed no Samsung products.
That is how the Apple V Samsung case turned out in the US.
Cross the pacific and back barely 12 hours and Samsung won a ruling against Apple in South Korea where the courts found Apple had violated a Samsung patent for standards based wireless technology patent.
The ruling ordered Apple to remove the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad 1 and iPad 2 from store shelves in South Korea. This does not effect the iPhone 4S or 3rd gen iPad.
The courts also found that Samsung did violate Apples Bounce Back Patent. The courts ruled that Samsung must pay Apple 25 million won ($22,000) while Apple must pay ($35,000) 40 million won.
Here is my issue with all this - Samsungs patent was with regards to an industry standard - When you have a patent for an industry standard you must license out that standard to all companies and at the same rate. That is the conclusion that the US court came to as well.
Back to the US Apple V Samsung ruling. Clearly in the short term this is going to be a boon to Apple and cause many an Android manufacturer to wonder when the phone will ring and Tim cook will be on the other end asking for their first born. Even though Samsung was found guilty of Willfully infringing on Appel Patents - Apple I am afraid after all is said and done will no longer look like the bad guy in this legal case - but rather will look like the Villain. I just am not in the mood to celebrate. Here is the opening I had originally wrote for today's episode.
Ok - the Apple v Samsung case is finally in the hands of the jury - whom were given 100 pages of instructions. Yikes - sucks to be them. Let me say this - regardless of who wins - I think this case has been a loss for Apple - especially on the PR and Marketing side. I said that early on when Appel first went after Samsung in Australia - I did not think it was a good marketing ploy for Apple to publicly state HEY world - Samsung Phones and Tablets are just like ours. So no matter what happens - at the end of the day this is a loss for Apple. I think Apple would have been better served to find alternative suppliers for their chips and every other component Samsung provides for iOS devices - and then say behind closed doors - You either stop copying us or we yank all our business post haste. Apple is still Samsungs biggest customer and Bottom line numbers would be severally impacted by such a decision. Apple is essentially funding the Gallaxy line. The worst long term outcome of this fight the more I think about it - is if Apple wins. This will force others to think of different ways of producing smartphones and tablets and eventually one of them will out innovate Apple out of necessity. Anyway - I think Apples lawsuits with Samsung have already done PR damage to Apple and has helped Samsung on the Marketing side. Did Samsung slavishly and purposefully copy Apple - Duhhh - Do Bears wear silly hats. Of course they did. It is not even a question - Even Google Told Samsung so - and if anyone knows about copying others it is Google. But legally does it matter - well that question a jury is deciding right now. However in the court of public opinion - I think this is a loose - loose case for Apple. To bad they did not decide to just out engineer and out innovate Samsung - and to send their component business elsewhere.
And that is how today's opening rant was supposed to go. Now some of you are saying but Apple just won a Billion Dollars. To which I say - so what - it is not like Apple remotely needs the money - and even they have said it is not about the money - even though they actually asked for over 2.5 Billion. But I think with triple damages - that 1 Bil becomes 3 Bil - Or maybe the 1 Bil is after trip damages - not sure - could not find that questions answered anywhere.
Again this is not money apple needed. And yes Apple will now go out with this verdict in hand and shake down every Android manufacture it can gets its hands on - probably looking at either HTC or Google / Moto Mobility first.
But at the end of the day - The view of Apple I am afraid will have changed in many's eyes to that of the villain who just tied up the damsel and placed her on the railroad tracks. Right or wrong - this case and decision will have a polarizing effect - and I think Samsung will be seen as the victim here - as will anyone else Apple goes after. We are already seeing the seeds of the victim card be played by Samsung with them saying quote "It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, unquote And I saw that quote already in multiple reports. Here is the thing - The one patent Samsung did not loose on was the one about the rectangle design. Yes - The One quote getting out from Samsung about this painting them as the victim is actually not factually correct with regards to the verdict. That said - Android fan boys will be bemoaning Apple about that quote not realizing it was the one patent Samsung did not get dinged on. Still in the court of public opinion - facts have a way of getting lost in the hyperbole.
That All said short term things will be very strong for Apple - but I would not be surprised if 3 years time we look back at this verdict as the point where Apples momentum peaked and there after started to slow down - Apple just made the rest of the industry realize they have to out design Apple - no longer will almost copying Apple be ok. Not saying this is the peak of the apple empire - too much momentum for a quick turn around. But I do think this is likely where Apple momentum starts to slow down.
On the last episode we talked about AT&T trying to get more iPhone user to move off AT&T by stating that if iPhone owners want to use FaceTime over Cellular on AT&T they need to be on of AT&T's non-consumer friendly Data share plan. Well now ATT has an official response to those complaining about their restrictions on FaceTime - specifically this is to those that mentioned the issue with Net Neutrality rules. ATT said quote.
"Indeed, the rules do not require that providers make available any preloaded apps. Rather, they address whether customers are able to download apps that compete with our voice or video telephony services. Although the rules don't require it, some preloaded apps are available without charge on phones sold by AT&T, including FaceTime, but subject to some reasonable restrictions. unquote
So If I was to translate what AT&T just said to their customers into street lingo - well I would have to flag this episode as explicit. Suffice to say from AT&T's perspective we are just darn lucky we even get any Apps preloaded on our iOS devices. Yeah those AT&T folks they are just so warm and fuzzy. REALY AT&T - REALY - why do you make it so easy for the haters to hate.
On the last episode we talked about AT&T trying to get more iPhone user to move off AT&T by stating that if iPhone owners want to use FaceTime over Cellular on AT&T they need to be on of AT&T's non-consumer friendly Data share plan. Well now ATT has an official response to those complaining about their restrictions on FaceTime - specifically this is to those that mentioned the issue with Net Neutrality rules. ATT said quote.
"Indeed, the rules do not require that providers make available any preloaded apps. Rather, they address whether customers are able to download apps that compete with our voice or video telephony services. Although the rules don't require it, some preloaded apps are available without charge on phones sold by AT&T, including FaceTime, but subject to some reasonable restrictions. unquote
So If I was to translate what AT&T just said to their customers into street lingo - well I would have to flag this episode as explicit. Suffice to say from AT&T's perspective we are just darn lucky we even get any Apps preloaded on our iOS devices. Yeah those AT&T folks they are just so warm and fuzzy. REALY AT&T - REALY - why do you make it so easy for the haters to hate.
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PLAY VOICE MAIL on 30 sec BACK.
I had quite a few people email in and call in on this - I believe what the person said they were looking for was a jailbreak tweak that allows for you to tap the power button and cause what is playing to jump back 30 secs.
A lot of the emails talked about the 30 sec jump back features in iCatcher, Pocketcasts, Stitcher, and more. Thanks for all that sent in feedback - Especially Bob that mentioned for Pocketcasts it allows for customizable periods for jumping back and forward - and then a tap on the left or right side of the screen will jump you back or forward by the amount you set up. Which is a nice feature.
Hi Rob, this for the poker group guy who wans to make a list of people coming to his poker game night. The App I found is Guest List RSVP. It is $0.99 in the app store. I hope it helps!
Regards,
Steven (in Houston)
Thanks Steven for the heads up on Guest List RSVP - three words - if you could RSVP as a word. Otherwise 2 words and 4 letters.
Thanks to John and others for the this next link - which is about T-mobile on September 5th changing to offer an unlimited uncapped truly un data plan - just like Sprints. And nothing at all like AT&T and Verizon. So speculation starts to swirl - does this change foreshadow an iPhone coming to T-Mobile which may be announced just one week later - Well of course it does. Yes - T-Mobile making this change at this time could just be a coincidences - However Folks remember this quote quote There are no Coincidences only the illusion of coincidence unquote - From V - as in V from Vendetta - Not V as in Verizon.
Into the email bag.
Hey rob I work for Verizon and received a company email and it stated that all vacation time has been blocked out the week of sept 21 and to please be prepared for massive lines.
Ps please don't mention my name if you read this email in the show.
Regards,
Johnny Appleseed
Thanks Johnny for the email. Yup starting to look a lot like christmas.
Speaking of Rumors and dates - There was a report from the Latinos Post that iOS 6 would launch on Sept 21st - the same day as the iPhone 2012 - Ummm - NO - Been there - Done that - Ain't gonna do that again. Last time Apple released an iPhone and iOS update on the same day - the results were shall we say - Not Good.
Expect iOS 6 to launch Tuesday the 18th - maybe Wednesday the 19th - but no later than the 19th.
On the search for more info to fuel the iPad Mini rumor front comes word that Apple Resellers have been asked to dedicate more space for the iPad ahead of the new model launch. Obviously this new space is to accommodate the iPad mini - which is rumored to be announced on Sep 12th - but now John Gruber and Jim Dalrymple are saying no - not really - the iPad Mini will likely be announced in October.
On the iPad Mini side we are also starting to see iPad Mini cases popping up from multiple vendors - so it does seem like it will be this year and not next when the sub 8" iPad is launched.
A Twit Pic from @veistercom - attn to iLounge appears to be the cable for the new iPhone 2012 smaller dock connector - again backing up the camp on the 9 pin Rumor side for the new connector - wether it is 8, or 9 or 16 or 19 sadly at this point it seems 99% likely that our beloved 30 pin doc connector will not be with us much longer.
Thanks to Jim for this next one. Which is a link to the site iPhone5craft dot com - which lets you pick the specs for the iPhone 2012 and the one that get picks the best - gets a free iPhone 2012 when it is released. Good luck on this one.
Look for the link titled - creating the new iPhone 2012 in the show notes at today in iOS dot com for ep 237
To those in the UK - on the rumor front - it looks like you have some potential news - and that is that Everything Everywhere has been granted permission from regulators for a September 11th launch of 4G services. Again if this september 11th date for launch sounds like a coincidence with regards to the September 12th rumored Apple iPhone event - well again remember the quote quote There are no Coincidences only the illusion of coincidence unquote Wow did not thinks I would be able to work that quote in this episode twice. Any way Everything Everywhere in the UK has both T-mobile and Orange as would be iPhone 2012 carriers.
Some of my thoughts for the Sept 12th event. Obviously the iPhone 2012 will be announced - and it will likely have the name the New iPhone or Really just iPhone. It will be LTE and it will have the larger 4" screen and smaller dock connector - 9 pin variety. It will feature NFC and it will have 1GB of ram on board. The iPod nano has been rumored for this event as well and it will work with the iPhone similar to how the pebble is supposed to work with the iPhone - except it will not be epaper like the pebble - but rather a color screen. But the biggest news of all is the iPhone 2012 will also be available on China Mobile within a few weeks of launching in the US. So it will be on the 3 biggest carriers in China - with China Mobile being the biggest in the world. And in the US T-Mobile will get the iPhone finally.
And of course iOS 6 launch date of either Sept 18th or 19th will be announced - along with a couple new features previously not mentioned - that will only work with the iPhone 2012.
What is not going to be announced at the event - I do not think we will be seeing the iPad Mini or the new iPod touch announced. Too many things to go over in this event. They will be announced at an event about 5 weeks later around October 17th. It is possible the new iPod nano announcement would slip until the middle of October. But I am hoping they mention it on the 12th of September. Per October 17th - I think that is far enough away from the September announcement9 - and it would be about a month from when I think the iPad Mini would launch - which I said on the last show will be after the US presidential election is over.
Of course once we get closer to the Sept 12th event I will update my thoughts / predictions with some additional specs and put out a bingo card going over the most popular rumors out there.
Dear Rob,
Was making sure airplane mode was working in iOS 6 beta, as I'm going on vacation soon. Apple added cute graphics to this as the airplane graphic appears to fly in on the bar when you turn it on and fly off when you go back to normal mode.
Just so your listeners know airplane mode stops 3G and carrier phone service for when your on an airplane. Wi-Fi also gets turned off but you can turn this back on while still in airplane mode.
Also looking for Bluetooth stereo headset with mic for my iPhone 4S for $100 plus tax or less. What would you and/or other listeners recommend.
Thanks Kevin K
Hi Rob
Is it possible to tweet what you are listening to from the music app in ios6?
It has always seemed an oversight on Apple's part not to include this in any previous version of iOS, as it would increase sales through iTunes.
Cheers
Chris G in Nottingham England
Hi Chris - So far in iOS 6 Betas - Tweeting what you are listening to is not an option I can see - at least from the Music app. In the podcasts App - yes absolutely you can do that. But per your question - nope not yet from the Music app.
Interesting email from Apple to all iBooks authors - they have added phone support to their customer service offerings. Calls are toll free to a 1-877 number and you can call between 7 am and 5 pm Pacific time. And support is just in english. If you are an iBooks author check for said email.
Or look in your spam folder.
A quick update on the Kickstarter project Pair with Pear - that was pulled down because of the name. They are working to get back up on kickstarter with a new name - and are working with Kickstarter to try and get those of us that pledged for that project to be kept as pledges. But so far they are not sure if that will happen. On the positive side they are continuing to work on the project and hope to accommodate both the old and new docks. More this at a later date.
Hay Rob, There are very few things that make me happy about external devices but this one got my attention on kick-starter its a way to
get internet access on the go for an iPod touch. It is called Freedom Sleeve and it turns an iPod touch into basically an iPhone.
I might buy the thing just for to put in my car under the seat.
You might ask why under my seat in the car? Good question but you know find my iPhone well ill know where my car is and not
because of wanting to track my wife but i have one of them type of cars people like to steal so ill just have a way to find my car
just that much easier without having to have a monthly bill for $99 a month now that's priceless.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/freedompop/freedom-sleeve-turn-your-ipod-into-an-iphone
Regards,
--
Lee S
In the ok - we are just a little bit to quick to complain about stuff category comes news of people complaining about the App - Knocked App - which will take your photo and make it look like you are pregnant - the about to go into labor pregnant. Which I can see expecting mom's that just found out they are pregnant curious to see how they would look in a few months time. I know I have plenty of pics of my Wife prior to giving birth. It is what you do as a dad to be. But seems some want to complain because teen age girls could use this app. quote
Joanne Ramadge, chief executive officer of Sexual Health and Family Planning Australia. said quote "I think it's absolutely dreadful, Teenage pregnancy is an extremely serious issue unquote.
Really - They want the app yanked from the app store because some teen age girl might look at her self and see what she looks like pregnant - and that is bad how? Have you seen how twisted your body gets when pregnant - I would think - seeing that would scare most teenage girls into keeping their legs crossed. Just Sayin.
With the pending iPhone 2012 announcement just weeks away - if you want to unload your old iPhone now is the time - well really probably 4 weeks ago was the time - but now is a better time than 4 weeks from no. As always - you will get the best price if your phone is unlocked - jailbroken and sold on eBay or craigslist. If you don't want to deal with selling it yourself - then there is NextWorth, ReCellular and Gazelle.
For an iPhone 4S 64GB with AT&T.
Nextworth will give you up to $351
Recellular will give you up to $359
Gazzelle will give you up to $370
Those numbers are based on it being Flawless pristine like a virgin.
So for those selling via Ebay and craigslist - keep that $370 number in mind when selling your iPhone 4S. You definitely want to get at least $450 to cover the added expense - again if your phone looks great and is 64GB with AT&T.
As always if you are selling your iPhone - make sure you whipe it clean. And make sure you have photosharing turned off - actually make sure iCloud info is removed and turned off.
Hi
I am on android galaxy nexus jelly bean 4.1 due to carrier cost reasons in Canada. Now some titles from iOS are coming to android but cannot be played unless your device is tegra 3 and some only available on amazon app store requires valid us credit card. This just tells me Google has no idea how much this will piss of android users.
The 2 games are jetpack joyride and puddle thd. Thankyou
Dev
Hi Rob,
I am wondering if you or your listeners are aware of a Jailbreak app that will allow the iPhone to create its own network in which to stream video and audio content to an iPad?
There are hardware solutions like FTP Cloud and the Seagate GoFlex Satellite Mobile WIFi drive that will do this, but I would prefer not have to carry another hardware device.
Thanks very much!
David
Hi Rob,
I got my iPhone 4 "carrier" unlocked when my 2 year contract with AT&T
ran out. Now I am thinking about jailbreaking my phone. Will the
jailbreak un-do or in any way disable the "carrier" unlock?
Thanks in advance and keep up the good show,
Mike
Thanks to Tash for this next one. Which is one of those wonderfully over priced products from Brookstone. This time it is a $229 micro Pocket Projector for the iPhone - which is part case - part projector - the project works at 15 lumen - which is not very bright at all. But worst part it just works at 640 x 360 resolution. So not sure how useful this would be - but if you do a lot of business presentations - maybe you could get a keynote presentation to work at those resolutions. Or maybe some cartoons for the kids. It does have 4.3 stars out of 5 rating. So who knows.
Thanks also to Tash for this next one. A couple of times Tim Cook had commented on combining a toaster and a refrigerator and saying you can combine just about any two items - but that does not make for a good device. Well someone at Brookstone - took those words to heart - well the first half of those words while they got the second half of their named. And they combined a Portable table top gas grill with speakers and a connection for an iOS device. Yes because nothing says I want to hear music like the sizzling of a brautworst on that portable table top grill. This one I just don't get at all.
Thanks to Robert D for the heads up on this next app - which is a free app called PaperKarma - which lets you take your junk snail mail and in a few simple clicks unsubscribe from that distributors snail mail list. The Apps Moto - Kill Junk Mail - Save Trees" and well that is a nobel cause and worthy of mention on the show - again the app is call PaperKarma - one word.
Hi, Rob,
I recently fell into my pool with my iPhone 4 in my pocket, which wasted it completely.
Fortunately, I had followed you advice and had purchased a SquareTrade warranty at the time of purchase, and it still had a few weeks of coverage left, and within less than 48 hours I had a "new" refurbished iPhone 4 in hand.
The guys at the AT&T store swapped out the SIMM card for no charge, and after restoring from a backup and re-setting password and some settings, I was just baout ready to go.
One persistent minor issue: I re-paired the Bluetooth with my car, and it worked fine. But in the past, every time I turned the car on, within about 6 seconds the console happily beeped at me, "Bluetooth connection successful." Now, when I enter and start the car, after about 15 seconds I get a message, "Bluetooth connection failed." What I have to do is then go into the iPhone's settings, turn off Bluetooth, and then turn it back on, after which I get the desired beep and "Bluetooth connection successful" message.
Any idea what's going on here? Can I do something to avoid having to take these extra steps every time I start the car?
Thanks,
Gil
Hey Rob, in location services under system services. What is "Traffic"
I've noticed that its using location services more often than not.
Thanks
Luke
Hi Luke,
That is the traffic part of maps on your iPhone.
Turn that off and you no longer get traffic updates on your maps app.
Thanks to Ray for the heads up on this next one - which is about the iTV - or more specifically the lack there of any time soon. So yeah - if you cleared off a space in on your mantle - you might want to visit your local pier 1 import and find an over priced and out of style painting to put up on that mantle. This is not based on what some Anal-ists are saying but rather from Eddy Cue himself. For those with out the 2012 Apple Trading card edition - Eddy Cue is the SVP of internet software and services. Or more accurately one of the inner circle at the top of Apple. Essentially this comes down to a lack of agreements for content for Apple TV - and at this time Apple does not feel it is in a place where it can offer up the best possible user experience again on the content side. This iTV thing could take a while after all.